About Sally & Zach
We’re a married couple who practices everything we teach. Every day. Inside our own relationship.
We’ve been together for over twenty years. We have two kids. And we coach couples through the hardest and most rewarding parts of their intimate relationships.
Between us, we have over three decades of coaching experience. We’ve worked with hundreds of couples — from California to New York to Europe and the Middle East. We’ve written 80+ articles for the Aspen Daily News in our weekly column, “Modern Love.” And we’ve spent the better part of our careers studying what actually makes relationships work — not the idealized version, but the real, messy, complicated, beautiful version.
We didn’t start here because we had it all figured out. We started here because we didn’t.
Like most couples, we came into our relationship carrying subconscious beliefs about love that we’d never examined. We inherited cultural narratives about what marriage was supposed to look like that didn’t match our reality. We had the same recurring fights. We watched desire fluctuate. We struggled with transparency. We learned — sometimes the hard way — that love is not something you find and keep. It’s something you build and rebuild, consciously, over and over again.
The methodology we teach — The Art of Conscious Love — isn’t something we invented in a classroom. It’s something we’ve lived. We developed it through our own marriage, refined it through decades of coaching other couples, and pressure-tested it against every kind of relationship challenge you can imagine.
We practice every single tool we teach. The Narrative Audit. The Evidence Journal. The Think It Three Times Rule. The Unsaid List. The Four Buckets. The Resolution Conversation. The Conscious Sexual Agreement.
These aren’t concepts to us. They’re how we live.
What We Believe
Your relationship is the most powerful vehicle for personal and spiritual evolution available to you. The challenges are not signs you chose the wrong person — they are the curriculum.
Sex is not optional. Monogamy must be designed. The whole truth must be spoken. And conflict, when resolved properly, is one of the deepest forces for intimacy there is.
We say things most coaches won't say. And we do it with love.
Our Credentials
30+ years of combined coaching experience
Together over 20 years
Hundreds of couples coached — from Aspen to New York to Europe and the Middle East
80+ published articles in the Aspen Daily News weekly column, “Modern Love”
The Art of Conscious Love — an 8-pillar methodology built on real-world coaching and personal practice
The best way to experience our work is to watch our free workshop.
In 45 minutes, you’ll understand the hidden system running your relationship, see how it shows up in your conflicts and your sex life, and walk away with a tool you can use immediately.