About Sally & Zach
We’re a married couple who practices everything we teach. Every day. Inside our own relationship.
Our Story
We’ve been together for almost twenty years. We have two kids. We live in Aspen, Colorado. And we coach couples through the hardest and most rewarding parts of their intimate relationships.
Between us, we have over three decades of coaching experience. We’ve worked with hundreds of couples — from Aspen to New York to Europe and the Middle East. We’ve written 80+ articles for the Aspen Daily News in our weekly column, “Modern Love.” And we’ve spent the better part of our careers studying what actually makes relationships work — not the idealized version, but the real, messy, complicated, beautiful version.
We didn’t start here because we had it all figured out. We started here because we didn’t.
Like most couples, we came into our relationship carrying subconscious beliefs about love that we’d never examined. We inherited cultural narratives about what marriage was supposed to look like that didn’t match our reality. We had the same recurring fights. We watched desire fluctuate. We struggled with transparency. We learned — sometimes the hard way — that love is not something you find and keep. It’s something you build and rebuild, consciously, over and over again.
The methodology we teach — The Art of Conscious Love — isn’t something we invented in a classroom. It’s something we’ve lived. We developed it through our own marriage, refined it through decades of coaching other couples, and pressure-tested it against every kind of relationship challenge you can imagine.
We practice every single tool we teach. The Narrative Audit. The Evidence Journal. The Think It Three Times Rule. The Unsaid List. The Four Buckets. The Resolution Conversation. The Conscious Sexual Agreement. These aren’t concepts to us. They’re how we live.
What We Believe
We believe your relationship is the most powerful vehicle for personal and spiritual evolution available to you. The challenges you face inside it are not signs you chose the wrong person — they are the curriculum.
We believe that most couples are stuck not because of a lack of love or effort, but because a hidden system of subconscious beliefs and inherited cultural narratives is running their relationship without their awareness. And we believe that system can be seen, understood, and consciously reprogrammed.
We believe love is an artform. That the best relationships are never finished — only continually refined. And that the couples who treat their relationship with the same intention and discipline they bring to their careers, their health, and their personal growth are the ones who build something extraordinary.
We believe sex is not optional. That desire must be consciously cultivated. That monogamy must be consciously designed. That the truth — the whole truth — must be spoken, even when it’s uncomfortable. And that conflict, when resolved properly, is one of the most powerful forces for deepening a relationship.
We believe in calling things what they are. We challenge sacred cows — the romantic ideal, the “best friend” myth, the idea that monogamy should be simple, the idea that the “spark” is a sign of compatibility (it’s usually a sign of activated attachment wounds). We say things that most coaches won’t say. And we do it with love.
Our Credentials
30+ years of combined coaching experience
Together over 20 years
Hundreds of couples coached — from Aspen to New York to Europe and the Middle East
Hundreds of published articles in the Aspen Daily News weekly column, “Modern Love”
The Art of Conscious Love — an 8-pillar methodology built on three decades of real-world coaching and personal practice
The best way to experience our work is to watch our free workshop.
In 45 minutes, you’ll understand the hidden system running your relationship, see how it shows up in your conflicts and your sex life, and walk away with a tool you can use immediately. No sales pitch for the first 40 minutes. Just the truth.